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| Remembrance Sunday/Armistice Day | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 12 2009, 04:29:39 AM (420 Views) | |
| Tiredwithtwins | Nov 12 2009, 04:29:39 AM Post #1 |
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just been reading on the sheffield forum a whole host of arguements about whether the 2 minute silence should be observed - many say we shouldnt be forced to observe this 2 minutes silence, just as many say we should. those who argued against it said it was their choice, those who argued for it said those who didnt were being selfish/were ignoring the sacrifice made by the Forces in ww1,ww2 and all subsequent wars. what do you think? should we be made to observe it? if our forefathers fought for our freedom, shouldnt we have the freedom to choose when/how we remember them? if that means not observing the silence, should we be criticised by those who think we should? I personally buy a poppy every year, and observe the silence on the sunday and armsitice day ... not quite sure what i think of those who dont - guess i dont have an opinion really ... i think its a personal thing. today i was in toysrus at 11am, and the whole store stood quietly - it was quite moving. i overheard afterwards several people who said they had forgotten about it ... :lol: I think the 2 minute silence should still be done publicly, and those who wish to observe it can do so. I think there should be more done on a daily basis to make sure everyone remembers the sacrifices being made today, as well as those made generations ago. You only have to watch the tv coverage of the village of Wooton Bassett when the bodies of dead soldiers are repatriated from afghanistan ... the whole village comes to a standstill when soldiers are brought home, to show thier respects. it certainly stirred up quite emotional arguements on www.sheffieldforum.com !!! |
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| ABCDiamond | Nov 12 2009, 07:29:30 AM Post #2 |
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I think we should, even if to literally stop us from forgetting. The younger generation, who may never know the real horror of war, should be helped to learn what it was like, and this is a tool to help. As the younger teans ask us why are we being silent, and we explain that it is to remember that 16 million people died in World War 1 with another 50 million deaths caused by World War 2. If someone "strongly" objects to a minute or 2 of silence each year, then .... not sure what I would think. I suppose I would think like them; 'not important enough to consider'. |
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| Anne | Nov 12 2009, 08:02:44 AM Post #3 |
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FYI informaton Sue they observe it over here too :yes: I was told that the whole of Rockingham City shopping centre was silent, and he we held a 2 minute silence at school immediately after a reading over the PA by some year 7 students telling us about armistice day. As soon as the silence was over we could see one of our year 2 boys in floods of tears. He then piped up sobbing "both my great grandads fought in the war". Not a bad thing that it's making 8 year olds have a good think and not become complacent. |
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ohippy
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Nov 12 2009, 10:05:59 AM Post #4 |
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Personally I think it should be observed, things are too often forgotten down through the generations and too many young, innocent lives were lost to be forgotten. As for those 8 year olds - their parents must have been old when they had them then, wow, cos my dad wasn't even old enough to be evacuated let alone fight !! Were they talking about the same war ? |
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Bridiej
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Nov 12 2009, 11:20:28 AM Post #5 |
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Yes, it should be observed. I wish poppies were easier to find here, still havent managed to find anyone selling them!!!! |
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Nov 12 2009, 12:15:50 PM Post #6 |
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I was working at the Groundwater Festival in Whiteman Park yesterday, there were over 1000 school kids doing various water related workshops, great day, kids had a ball. The Park was also busy with the usual park goers. At 11 these was a pa announcement and the whole park fell silent as the last post was played followed by 2 mins silence, none of the kids made a sound and it even seemed like the animals were quiet too, it was very moving. When I was a teeneger I played in a brass band, on remembrance sunday we always played at the war memorial in the morning, the remembrance service in the afternoon then on to at least 1 British Legion for a service afterwards, the last post always moved many to tears (not just because it was played badly). My Dad fought in WW2 and it's the only thing he ever talks about now, just like Uncle Albert in Only Fools and Horses. As for observing the silence, for me it's a respet thing, if someone can't give 2 mins of their year to show their respect for those who gave their lives so they could have theirs then I don''t want to know them. |
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Nov 12 2009, 12:21:16 PM Post #7 |
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Agree it should be observed. Love that its not even a question here.Even the high school kids are all respectful during the silence. |
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Nov 12 2009, 12:51:42 PM Post #8 |
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I dont see how anyone could be against it, its just a matter of two mins to remember those who fought, died and suffered in fighting for their countries. Everyone should have some respect for that :yes: |
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Nov 12 2009, 05:23:58 PM Post #9 |
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I don't know anyone who is against it, everyone stops and remembers on both days. I think its just as important now than it ever was. |
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| Anne | Nov 12 2009, 05:44:22 PM Post #10 |
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The lad did say GREAT grandads |
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Melibeam
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Nov 12 2009, 05:45:11 PM Post #11 |
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Bridie have you got an RSL near you? Thats where we got our poppies from :yes: I also saw something on the news last night about how you can download one to your mobile phone and all money goes to the RSL or something similar :yes: |
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Bridiej
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Nov 12 2009, 05:48:59 PM Post #12 |
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Dont think we have.... :S Thing is it's not just about the big world wars but remembering all those who have died for their country in conflict - bearing in mind troops are still dying in Iraq and Afghanistan I dont know why people complain. |
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rjs
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Nov 12 2009, 05:50:41 PM Post #13 |
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We had people selling them at our local shops ,but also just saw them in office works. |
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Melibeam
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Nov 12 2009, 05:53:17 PM Post #14 |
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here is the online link http://www.rslpoppy.com/ |
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Nov 12 2009, 07:52:55 PM Post #15 |
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I was in a major hump all day because after a week of Google celebrating 40 years of poxy Sesame Street, there was absolutely sweet FA about Remembrance Day. Apparently a poppy appeared on the UK one sometime during the day but there was nothing over here and nothing in other countries. Made me boil. Our high school did a one minute silence and it was really well observed. What I did like was on my local radio, music died away then there was a five minute speech from some guy about how the day was important etc which went straight into a minute's silence followed by the last post. The first record back on was suitable solemn. The last one I remember in the UK was Radio 2, some guy saying it was 11o'clock and there would be a silence then back to normal. |
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Bridiej
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Nov 12 2009, 07:54:06 PM Post #16 |
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Chattermonster Extraordinaire!
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Thanks Mel :thumbsup: Do the Americans not "do" remembrance day? |
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| Hevs | Nov 13 2009, 12:07:23 PM Post #17 |
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If it wasn't for the people giving their lives we wouldn't have the freedom to be right on and decide that its above us to give us two mins of our valuable time to "remember" Sorry but it irks me. My friend won't do it cos she says it "glorifies" war WTF!? Yep...we should do it :blushing: :lol: :lol: |
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Nov 13 2009, 07:06:55 PM Post #18 |
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They have Veterans Day but it's the same day. |
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| Tiredwithtwins | Nov 14 2009, 05:37:09 AM Post #19 |
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this is the link to the thread on the sheffield forum - its a bit long and full of ''my opinions right and yours is wrong'' kinda posts, but makes interesting reading. im samsmum btw :wink: http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=524102 |
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| ABCDiamond | Nov 14 2009, 10:17:38 AM Post #20 |
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It was interesting to the the "Typical Daily Mail attitudes" comment, when the Daily Mail hadn't even been mentioned :lol: One persons comment was "Not everyone remembers, so why should Universities or workplaces force people into a silence?" I think that is a shot in the foot.. We should be helped to remember, lest we forget... and it happens again, in such a large way. |
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| Anne | Nov 14 2009, 01:16:45 PM Post #21 |
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I'm always a tad confused by the comment about the Daily Mail readers. I read the Daily Mail, how/what/who am I perceived to be?????????????????? |
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| ABCDiamond | Nov 14 2009, 03:26:14 PM Post #22 |
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I was always a Daily Mail reader too, but that was some years back. It is a very odd class system though... :whistle: |
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Nov 14 2009, 07:14:36 PM Post #23 |
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The Daily Mail, along to a certain extent, with The Sun is regularly perceived to show only the negative. If you were to take the word of the Daily Mail and not take much notice of any other news media you would believe that the UK is down the gutter, that it's been totally taken over by Illegal Migrants and Polish Immigrants. You would believe that few people actually speak English and all road signs around the country are now written in Polish as well as English. You would know that the country is dying and there's no way back up, that all teenagers are drug taking, binge drinking, creating children in order to get benefits 24/7 etc etc etc. They are very very anti Labour and are happy to blame every negative issue with the UK firmly on Labour's shoulders. Most people who read the Daily Mail, also get their information from other sources and so don't necessarily accept this view. They read it to get one view to go with all the others they look for. However, from personal experience, there is a fair minority who only believe this and accept everything The Daily Mail write. It is that few that people (including me) mean as 'Daily Mail Readers'. |
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| Petals | Nov 16 2009, 04:42:39 AM Post #24 |
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I read it too, mainly because the site is well set up. Have to get my fix of doom and gloom :whistle: |
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| Hevs | Nov 16 2009, 12:08:56 PM Post #25 |
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Miraculous Mamma Mod
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So it isn't.... :whistle: |
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